Counterterrorism magazine published my Q&A with Brad Taylor, former U.S. Amy special operator and the author of American Traitor, One Rough Man and other thrillers.
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An IACSP Q&A With Brad Taylor Retired
U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel
By Paul Davis
Brad
Taylor published his debut novel, One Rough Man, in 2011. he military thriller
was successful and launched his Pike Logan series, which has sold more than
three million copies. His current novel is called “American Traitor.” Brad
Taylor was born on Okinawa, Japan and grew up in rural Texas. He graduated
from the University of Texas and was commissioned as a second lieutenant in the
U.S. Army Infantry. He held numerous Infantry and Special Forces positions,
including eight years in the 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment –
Delta, where he commanded multiple troops and a squadron.
He
conducted operations in support of US national interests in Iraq, Afghanistan,
and other classified locations. His final assignment was as the Assistant
Professor of Military Science at The Citadel in Charleston, SC. He served
for more than 21 years.
Brad
Taylor holds a Master of Science in Defense Analysis from the Naval
Postgraduate School, with a concentration in Irregular Warfare. In addition to
writing thrillers, Brad Taylor also serves as a security consultant on
asymmetric threats for various agencies.
Brad Taylor discussed his novels and national security
issues with Paul Davis.
IACSP: How would you describe your novel
“American Traitor?”
Taylor: “American Traitor” is a thriller
about the insidious and growing “gray war” between China, the United States,
and Taiwan. China has been pushing its perceived sovereign territory farther
and farther into the South China Sea for years, and the president of China has
stated unequivocally that he will not pass the ‘Taiwan Question’ to another
generation. It has a goal, and to acquire it, they cannot afford to go to war
with the United States from a cold start invasion. They need another route, and
they’re looking to find it in “American Traitor.”
IACSP: How would you describe your fictional
counterterrorism group, the Taskforce?
Taylor: The Taskforce is an extra-legal
counterterrorism organization formed after 9/11 to seamlessly fuse all source
intelligence and direct action to eliminate terrorist threats to the homeland.
Given my background, I’m often asked if such a unit exists in the real world
and I smile. We most certainly don’t. The truth is I created the unit out of
whole cloth precisely, so people didn’t think I was writing about real
classified units I’d served in and simply changed the names.
IACSP: Who is Pike Logan, the central
character in your thrillers?
Taylor: Pike
Logan is a team leader and top tier Operator in the Taskforce. He was a ‘plank
owner’ when the unit was created.
IACSP: Is the
character of Pike Logan autobiographical in any way?
Taylor: “No, with the exception of him being
an operator. Originally, when I wrote my first book “One Rough Man,” I wanted
to write a story of redemption, but conventional wisdom is ‘write what you
know.’ Since I was Special Forces, Pike became Special Forces. If I had been a
cop, Pike would have worn a badge. None of the stories I write come from any of
my personal experiences while serving.
IACSP: Have you always wanted to be a writer,
even while serving as a soldier?
Taylor: I never thought I would have writing
as a career, but I always wanted to write a book. I was always a voracious
reader and it was just kind of a bucket list thing of mine that one day I was
going to write a book. I didn’t think it would get published. I thought it
would sit on my bedside table and my wife and mom would say, that’s a neat
book, Brad, and that was about it. So no one is more surprised than me to have
15 books out.
IACSP: Aside from writing good thrillers, do
you think your appeal is partly due to your special operations background, like
Jack Carr, a former Navy SEAL, and Ian Fleming and John le Carre, who were
intelligence officers?
Taylor: I think so, but I don’t think it is
necessary. No matter what your background is, it is the writing that will carry
the day. One of the greatest war novels ever written was “Red Badge of
Courage,” and that guy never served a day.
IACSP: True. Stephen Crane later saw combat
as a war correspondent in Cuba, but “Red Badge of Courage” remains his best
work.
Taylor: You can’t help but use your own
experiences when writing, so it is a definite asset for me. When I’m writing
about operations, planning, gun fights or anything like that, I can’t help but
use my experiences.
IACSP: I’m aware that you can’t discuss your
classified background in special operations, but perhaps as a security
consultant you can address national security issues. You write about
Communist China in “American Traitor,” and I’d like to know what you think
about Chinese espionage, their military build-up, and their aggressive actions
in the South China Sea. How much of a threat is China to America?
Taylor: They are definitely a threat to
America. They are the number one threat, because they are an economic
powerhouse like we are, unlike Russia. Russia still has the nukes, but they
have a GDP less the size of Texas. The Chinese are insidious. Everyone has
heard of the KGB. All the movies are about the KGB, but the Chinese Ministry of
State Security (MSS) is about six times the size of the KGB and it is the
largest intelligence organization in the world, and they operate everywhere.
They are all over our universities and there is not a week that goes by without
a story about Chinese intelligence, such as the New York police officer who was
arrested for tracking Tibetans refugees for the Chinese. They are all over the
place.
IACSP: The
Chinese are suspected of conducting the hack of the Office of Personnel
Management’s files, which includes OPM’s forms with our background information
for obtaining a security clearance.
Taylor: Yeah. I was notified by the Special
Operations Command that here is a way to protect yourself as the Chinese now
have your SF 86. Make no mistake, they are using it.
IACSP: I understand that the MSS has several
multi-storied buildings full of hackers who are targeting our government,
universities and corporations. The SolarWinds hack, which the Russians are
suspected of conducting is also pretty devastating. Can you comment on that?
Taylor: They used the backdoor to a system
nobody has ever heard of, but it turns out it’s on every system we have. Talk
about a single point of failure.
IACSP: I wonder if it was the Russian SVR or
the Russian military’s GRU. The KGB went away, but the GRU has remained, and
they are into hacking big time.
Taylor: They also do the direct-action stuff.
They are the guys who are responsible for the Novichok killings and the
Plutonian and all that stuff.
IACSP: The stuff of thrillers.
Taylor: Yeah.
IACSP: What do you think of the threat from
Iran?
Taylor: I think the threat from Iran is one,
people aren’t looking at in a holistic manner. We look at Afghanistan, so we
went in and took out the Taliban, we look at Iraq, so we went in and took out
Saddam Hussein. People think we will do a regime change in Iran, but they have
a whole different world looking them. Number one, Iran has a pretty good
hacking capability in and of themselves, and number two, they got a global
reach. They got Hizballah in Lebanon and South America, they got the Popular
Mobilization Units in Iraq, which are the ones rocketing our bases there, and
we’ve arrested sleeper cells here. If we went into Iran, I don’t think people
realize that they would take the gloves off. We would be fighting all over the
place.
IACSP: I
interviewed former CIA station chief Gary Berntsen here a while back and he
said he went up against the Iranians and it was like fighting the Nazis. He
said they were a formable opponent.
Taylor: They lost 300,000 people in an
eight-year war with Iraq. They can take punishment.
IACSP: What do you think of the peace talks
and our withdrawal from Afghanistan?
Taylor: I have a bunch of friends over there
right now. I think there has to be a political solution, but I don’t think we
should put a timeline on it. The Taliban are more violent now than they have
been in the past few years. They are not adhering to anything they said they
would.
IACSP: What about
the threat from North Korea?
Taylor: North Korea’s biggest threat is the
fact that they are going to implode, in my opinion. They are going to continue
their nuclear program, but the biggest problem is they are slowly and surely
eating themselves to death.
IACSP: What about the threat from ISIS, al
Qaeda and other Islamic terrorist groups?
Taylor: They all start morphing and its hard
to put a finger on a single group. Terrorism will always be a threat, but what
we need to be concerned about are threats against the homeland. Are they a
transnational threat? Components of al Qaeda are in Syria and Afghanistan and
their sole mission in life is to attack Americans. Same with ISIS. They claim
they are going to plant their flag in Washington D.C., and they are coming for
us. One thing about Islamic terrorists – they’ll kill you. They are not hiding
anything. They are a threat, maybe not like a 9/11 attack, but my concern to me
is that Iran will use them as a proxy. After we smoked Soleimani, they are
looking for revenge.
IACSP: Thank you for speaking to us. Thank
you for your service and good luck with your thrillers.
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